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In The Only State Where Selling Peyote Is Legal, The Cactus Is Threatened And Still Controversial

In ecological terms, South Texas is known as brush country – it’s home to lots of thorny shrubs, trees and palms. Its humid climate makes it similar to parts of Northern Mexico, and it’s only in these two places where you can find one member of the cacti family which has been controversial, to say the least: peyote – genus Lophophora – is a small cactus native to the Rio Grande Valley. It contains a psychoactive substance known as mescaline, and it’s been used as a religious sacrament in ceremonies by native cultures for centuries. But selling it is barred in every state except for the one where it grows: Texas.

Peyote sellers in Texas are required to first register with the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, and then with the Texas Department of Public Safety. They must report how much peyote they harvest from the wild, and renew their license every year. Currently, there are only four licensed peyote distributors in Texas, and one of them is Salvador Johnson.

“I’ll be 72 in, probably in about three weeks. But I still harvest peyote, so still going strong, still feel young,” Johnson says.

Johnson lives in Mirando City; it’s a town of less than 200 people and is about 35 miles east of Laredo. He’s lived there pretty much all his life. After graduating from high school in 1966, Johnson joined the Air Force and was deployed to Vietnam. When he came back home, he followed in his father’s footsteps.

“My father was still living and he had moved back to Mirando. He sold peyote for about 18 years. I came out back here and I applied for my license, and I started selling peyote. I’ve been doing it ever since,” Johnson says.

But distributors like Salvador Johnson are only allowed to sell peyote to registered members of one religious organization called the Native American Church. To buy it, church members must prove their ancestry.

“The most important document for a person to have is what we call the Certificate of Indian Blood, because that will show you who you are, who your parents are and your blood quarter; you have to be at least one-fourth [American] Indian to purchase peyote in the state of Texas, or possess peyote in the state of Texas,” Johnson says.

Folks who meet these requirements drive to the Valley from every corner of the United States to buy peyote, or as church members call it, “medicine.” James Flaming Eagle Mooney is one of them.

“To me, it’s a symbolic representation of God. It’s basically a truth ceremony; it shows you who you are, your godliness,” Mooney says.

Mooney has known Johnson for decades – he is the former leader of the Oklevueha branch of the Native American Church.

“I believe that this is the only way that a certain group of humans can get close to God, and there’s no other way. This religion could never keep on without this peyote,” Mooney says.

Peyote is a small, round cactus. It has no thorns, but has unique properties that make it an especially resilient species. If you cut what’s called the “button,” which is used in ceremonies, the root has the ability to slowly regrow a new button. Still, wild peyote is on the decline. According to a report by the International Union for Conservation of Nature, there’s been at least a 30% decline over the last 20 years.

“We are overharvesting the shrinking area of the planet that actually supports wild peyote,” says Martin Terry, a professor of botany at Sul Ross State University in Alpine

Terry has been studying peyote for three decades. He says overharvesting is happening because Texas does not allow for peyote cultivation.

“What is the justification behind this? Why can’t it be cultivated? That’s a very good question: If you happen to be talking to any Texas legislators in the near future, ask them that question,” Terry says.

But Terry says this attitude towards peyote is nothing new.

“Since the Spaniards set foot on these shores, there has been persecution of people who used peyote, and that continues to the Drug Enforcement Administration of today,” Terry says.

Native American Church members like Mooney say these laws have been used as a way to persecute their people.

“People need to understand that law was not just to deal with peyote; it had to deal with peyote in the sense that it was a sacrament that the indigenous peoples of North and South America had used continuously, since before recorded history,” Mooney says.

The DEA lists peyote as a Schedule I controlled drug, which puts it in the same category as heroin or LSD. But distributors, users and scientists like Terry say it causes no real harm to the human body.

“People using peyote in a ceremonial sense, and using it, let’s say, once a month or so, which is about how the ceremonies are spaced out, in reality – if it’s used properly, the way that it’s always been used – ceremonially – peyote is absolutely safe. And yet, we have governments putting it into things like Schedule I, which for there is no evidence whatsoever of adverse effects,” Terry says.

Johnson, the peyote distributor, traces his own roots to the Mexican state of San Luis Potosí where peyote grows and is used. To him, selling it something of a family tradition; he took over the business from his father, and he hopes that will continue after him.

“Either one of my daughters, my son, my grandsons: one of them, more than likely, will pick up the business that I have. But it’s something that has to come from you and your heart,” Johnson says.

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From Texas Standard: In ecological terms, South Texas is known as brush country – it’s home to lots of thorny shrubs, trees and palms. Its humid climate…

Are peyote seeds legal

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Seeds would definately pose no threat,

The CSA states:
(22) Peyote Meaning all parts of the plant presently classified botanically as Lophophora williamsii Lemaire, whether growing or not, the seeds thereof, any extract from any part of such plant, and every compound, manufacture, salts, derivative, mixture, or preparation of such plant, its seeds or extracts (Interprets 21 USC 812(c), Schedule I(c) (12))

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Thanks, rockstafarian I’ll check them out. Too bad we can’t get some of those live plants. Sure would get a head start that way.

I’ve been looking for a long time on the internet and other places and got lucky and found this site. Cool. Not cool that my gov’t sucks as far as these sustances are concerned!! Thanks to all of you guys.

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Ebay no longer even allows lopho sales.

I still see auctions for peyote although they tend to be “buy it now” type auctions though.Like this one:

h t t p : / / cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42211&item=4358519352&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

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They do pay attention close enough but with millions of listings and limited resources they miss some things.Other times they selectively bust people only choosing to bust people they think may be worth busting such as people who have large stashes or do alot of business.

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Bill Stephens, a private investigator specializing in computer crime, said he recently made an undercover purchase of GHB from a Maryland-based Web distributor, paying $500 for a dozen vials. “No questions asked,” he said, on condition that his firm’s name or location not be released. The drugs arrived by Airborne Express air courier, Stephens said. In another investigation, Stephens said he purchased opium poppy seeds in an online auction at eBay.com, receiving an instruction sheet detailing the process for extracting sap from the flower bulbs and making opium. A recent visit to the eBay site found a packet of 1,500 opium poppy seeds for sale with the message: “These seeds are intended for aesthetic and culinary purposes only. Please check local regulations before buying.” An eBay spokesman said the company doesn’t prohibit sales of items that are legal in most states, such as opium poppy seeds.

Internet dealers also sell kits for making rohypnol, also known as roofies or the date-rape drug. The kits contain most of the ingredients needed to mix up a batch of the illegal chemical, said U.S. Customs Service spokesman Dean Boyd. “Our Cyber smuggling Center is looking at this,” said Boyd.

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FBI arrests couple in diabetic-test-strip theft and scam
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If they are busting people for stolen diabetic strips on ebay you can guarantee they are busting other illegal items.

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Online auction site eBay Inc. confirmed Wednesday that the FBI has launched a probe into whether people are committing fraud by bidding up the prices of their own items.

Lots of evidence to show they are presently investigating ebay for a variety of things.

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While I havent come across articles where the FBI admits to looking for illegal drugs on ebay, evidence seems to point to it.I dont think they are going to directly admit to it.But if they are busting lesser things on ebay you can guarantee illegal drugs and similar items are on the list.

I also know that some online groups and individuals have openly admitted to contacting the FBI about drugs being sold on Ebay.

Also dont use paypal for anythign suspicious (aside from their new policies) since ebay now owns paypal and thats why paypal’s policies have changed.

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They generally seem to scan listings briefly and they also respond to complaints about illegal drugs and plants and etc being sold on Ebay (and obviously other web vendors).

Narcs are a dime a dozen.

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Seeds would definately pose no threat,

The CSA states:
(22) Peyote Meaning all parts of the plant presently classified botanically as Lophophora williamsii Lemaire, whether growing or not, the seeds thereof, any extract from any part of such plant, and every compound, manufacture, salts, derivative, mixture, or preparation of such plant, its seeds or extracts (Interprets 21 USC 812(c), Schedule I(c) (12))

No shit unenlightened one. I didnt say it was legal. I said that it should pose no threat. Even the most educated cactus experts would find it difficult to differentiate between loph seeds and other legal cacti seeds, and I’m sure customs can’t either. The reason I listed that source is because they don’t label their seeds in the mail. Whether or not they admit it, overseas vendors know loph seeds are illegal in the USA, and they dont want to be held responsible either.
Sorry about listing a source, I wasnt aware that it was a problem. Won’t do it again. I had made a post several months ago requesting a source for loph seeds, and was given that site in the thread. Nobody cared then.
How is it bad to give a source in a thread? The shroomery sponsors page is full of them. I don’t mean to bitch. just curious.

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How is it bad to give a source in a thread? The shroomery sponsors page is full of them. I don’t mean to bitch. just curious.

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The shroomery sponsors page is full of them.

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“What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?”

“Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword”
– John Mayer

Making the noise “penicillin” is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

“This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it.” -Abraham Lincoln

I’m new to this forum and this is my first post. I’m wondering if anyone from the US has had any experience with finding peyote seeds or plants from anyone here in the states? I know there are all